gkebiz
01-14 10:06 PM
I am wondering if there is any push by the immigrant community to urge US govt to let H4 people to work!!!
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apnaapna
04-17 10:22 PM
I work for the fortune 500 company, fragomen filed my case very last minute (just a day my 5th year finishes). I do not know why they did like that though the HR initiated my GC long time back. I found many of my friends also had similar issues. They really test your patience. One of my friend's case, they have totaly screwed up by filing last minute.
bugmenot
05-30 07:52 PM
Text of almost all filed amendments is available in congressional record on Thomas. This one has been available since Friday.
S.A. 1249. Sponsored by Maria Cantwell and co-sponsored by Cornyn, Leahy and Hatch
It creates a parallel merit-based employer sponsored category without touching the existing merit-based self-sponsored category.
The merit based self-sponsored category is the crappy points system. This is in parallel to that, without touching anything in points system. They have created an exact parallel replica of today's EB1, EB2 and EB3 system with labor certification and the whole enchilada where you need employer sponsor and there is not points or anything.
EB1 = 33.3%, EB2 = 33.3% and EB3 = 33.3%. Definiation of EB1, EB2 and EB3 would be the same as it is today.
Total quota of 140,000 with automatic recapture of previous years unused GCs.
Exemptions for US masters and non-US STEM masters with have 3 years experience in that STEM field.The risk factor:
Now, the bad part ... the achilles heel of every high-skills amendment is the tethered H1B quota tricks. They are exempting everyone who has US masters or a non-US master in STEM from H1 quota, effectively making H1 quota = A LOT MORE.
The exact same radioactive provision for H1 quota is also in Lieberman-Hagel amendment 1242.
This will sink both of them unless either there is some inside deal going on that we dont know, or they strike out the H1 issue from this on the floor of the senate at the last minute and be content with H1 quota of 180,000.
the powerfull business lobby have clearly said that they wont support any bill that does not give a provision for us masters exempt. so if they dont get that the bill would sink as the senators supporting the bill cornyn are lobbying for the business community
S.A. 1249. Sponsored by Maria Cantwell and co-sponsored by Cornyn, Leahy and Hatch
It creates a parallel merit-based employer sponsored category without touching the existing merit-based self-sponsored category.
The merit based self-sponsored category is the crappy points system. This is in parallel to that, without touching anything in points system. They have created an exact parallel replica of today's EB1, EB2 and EB3 system with labor certification and the whole enchilada where you need employer sponsor and there is not points or anything.
EB1 = 33.3%, EB2 = 33.3% and EB3 = 33.3%. Definiation of EB1, EB2 and EB3 would be the same as it is today.
Total quota of 140,000 with automatic recapture of previous years unused GCs.
Exemptions for US masters and non-US STEM masters with have 3 years experience in that STEM field.The risk factor:
Now, the bad part ... the achilles heel of every high-skills amendment is the tethered H1B quota tricks. They are exempting everyone who has US masters or a non-US master in STEM from H1 quota, effectively making H1 quota = A LOT MORE.
The exact same radioactive provision for H1 quota is also in Lieberman-Hagel amendment 1242.
This will sink both of them unless either there is some inside deal going on that we dont know, or they strike out the H1 issue from this on the floor of the senate at the last minute and be content with H1 quota of 180,000.
the powerfull business lobby have clearly said that they wont support any bill that does not give a provision for us masters exempt. so if they dont get that the bill would sink as the senators supporting the bill cornyn are lobbying for the business community
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va_labor2002
07-05 01:20 PM
When Skill bill will be scheduled to debate / discuss in house as well as in Senate? Any idea please.
1) When are we sending FAX to congressmen ? Is there a plan of action from the Core Team members regarding this SKIL BILL ?
2) When the debate starts in congress ? How can we find out the dates?
Any comments ?
1) When are we sending FAX to congressmen ? Is there a plan of action from the Core Team members regarding this SKIL BILL ?
2) When the debate starts in congress ? How can we find out the dates?
Any comments ?
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coopheal
03-14 12:18 PM
People with EB3-India may not expect any kind of fast movement in near future, unless law changes. It will be in snail phase. It is waste discussion to analyze howmany people filled EB3 LC from India in 2002,2003 etc. Generally EB3 is very high demand catagory from all accross the world. EB3 contains skilled worker catagory including cooks, nurses, and so many many non-professional occupations. All the discusion are focussed on demand by Indian IT folks, by ignoring other spectrum of the demand by other group of peoples. Therfore no matter what; EB3-India will get only 3000 EB3 GC per year (Approxmatly 1500 primary).
1500 LC per year EB3 India is a tiny fraction of the demand by EB3 India. Therefore best advise in EB3 India folks to convert into EB2 to get use of early PD like 2002 or 2003.
I agree porting to EB2 will be much faster.
1500 LC per year EB3 India is a tiny fraction of the demand by EB3 India. Therefore best advise in EB3 India folks to convert into EB2 to get use of early PD like 2002 or 2003.
I agree porting to EB2 will be much faster.
GCBy3000
02-12 11:43 AM
Simple, the power will shift from Rep to Dem from Feb 15th(not sure about this date). So we have to to find a lobbying firm which is close to Dems.
IV go ahead and work on our cause. Some people will lose confidence as if you have guaranteed them something.
For MEMBERS,
IV is a group with folks like us. THey are also working like us and TRYING to get something passed for US. NOTHING is guaranteed by them. They do not have million dollars in their kitty to do the lobbying. What they have is mere 8000+ members in this org and mere 200+ monthly contributing members. What you can expect from them with this kind of support in US. This is not a thrid world country where you can go and bribe to get your job done. You need strong organization with good relationship with lawmakers. To get that, IV needs funds. Nothing would be guarnteed and this should be set in back of your mind. We can expect just the 100% positive efforts to solve the problem we have from IV. This is enough.
ok, i am beginning to lose confidence now... first no i-485 relief and now wait till CIR>.....last year, CIR turned out to be a big circus....i hope this time something productive happens....
why are we changing lobbying firm? what do you mean it is a strategic decision?
are we dissatisfied with our lobbying firm? pm me if you can post on public forum..
but we need answers....this leadership is going nowhere now......
IV go ahead and work on our cause. Some people will lose confidence as if you have guaranteed them something.
For MEMBERS,
IV is a group with folks like us. THey are also working like us and TRYING to get something passed for US. NOTHING is guaranteed by them. They do not have million dollars in their kitty to do the lobbying. What they have is mere 8000+ members in this org and mere 200+ monthly contributing members. What you can expect from them with this kind of support in US. This is not a thrid world country where you can go and bribe to get your job done. You need strong organization with good relationship with lawmakers. To get that, IV needs funds. Nothing would be guarnteed and this should be set in back of your mind. We can expect just the 100% positive efforts to solve the problem we have from IV. This is enough.
ok, i am beginning to lose confidence now... first no i-485 relief and now wait till CIR>.....last year, CIR turned out to be a big circus....i hope this time something productive happens....
why are we changing lobbying firm? what do you mean it is a strategic decision?
are we dissatisfied with our lobbying firm? pm me if you can post on public forum..
but we need answers....this leadership is going nowhere now......
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hebbar77
10-01 04:55 PM
We indians could not unite when colonizers came....
We indians could not unite after 1947 and trying to find ways to split ourselves(language/region caste... and #&*!)
And we cant stop fighting on a immigration forum after leaving indian soil...
I am wondering why!!
Jai ho.
We indians could not unite after 1947 and trying to find ways to split ourselves(language/region caste... and #&*!)
And we cant stop fighting on a immigration forum after leaving indian soil...
I am wondering why!!
Jai ho.
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nat23
11-08 01:11 PM
Yabadaba,
"Moron" is an insult. I don't insult anyone. If you don't like my posts, just ignore them.
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Ombudsman is right. This is a public forum and if you dont like something ignore it. I personally find, Ombudsman's posts quiet interesting and good food for thought. They are put forward in a very professional manner unlike some people who use insults and sarcasm.
Cheers
Nat
"Moron" is an insult. I don't insult anyone. If you don't like my posts, just ignore them.
Regards,
The Ombudsman
Ombudsman is right. This is a public forum and if you dont like something ignore it. I personally find, Ombudsman's posts quiet interesting and good food for thought. They are put forward in a very professional manner unlike some people who use insults and sarcasm.
Cheers
Nat
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burnt
03-28 02:16 PM
Just to add.... porting process is legit for EB-2 as well. EB-1 is current now. :p
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Story of Indian Crabs was a good one...:-)
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The Indian CRAB is the story of how a fisherman kept a basket with crabs, uncovered. When asked, he replied " They�re Indian Crabs - If one tries to climb out, the others will pull it back in, hence there�s no need for a lid "
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Story of Indian Crabs was a good one...:-)
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jthomas
03-14 11:25 PM
Should we send letters to the president about EB india category. The dates are moving very slowly..... etc..
we have to do something or it will take years to get GC
we have to do something or it will take years to get GC
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lkapildev
09-25 05:01 PM
I second the opinion who has posted at the start of this thread.
I have never seen such a horrible law firm. I and my wife both are working for large corp. I am on L1 and my wife on L2 EAD. Our sutuation is same as majority of yours
I have never seen such a horrible law firm. I and my wife both are working for large corp. I am on L1 and my wife on L2 EAD. Our sutuation is same as majority of yours
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desi3933
01-13 06:00 AM
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The Key Point: Equal opportunity employment advancement is protected by Constitution ("Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII)")and hence the Supreme Court can overturn the per country quota limitation if the Supreme Court finds that the per country quota leads to discrimination at employment, which is unconstitutional.
You are missing the key point here.
Equal Employment Opportunity applies only to applicants who are eligible to apply for that job. It does NOT apply to immigrant visa allocation and any other visa benefit such as H-1B approval.
In other words, Equal Employment Opportunity is applicable to US Citizens and residents with work authorization (Green Card holders, EAD holders, person with H-1B approved) and this is limited to job hiring, job promotion, discharge, pay, fringe benefits, job training, classification, referral, and other aspects of employment. This does not extend to immigration benefit or opportunity lost due to lack of immigration benefit (such as I-485 approval).
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Not a legal advice.
The Key Point: Equal opportunity employment advancement is protected by Constitution ("Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII)")and hence the Supreme Court can overturn the per country quota limitation if the Supreme Court finds that the per country quota leads to discrimination at employment, which is unconstitutional.
You are missing the key point here.
Equal Employment Opportunity applies only to applicants who are eligible to apply for that job. It does NOT apply to immigrant visa allocation and any other visa benefit such as H-1B approval.
In other words, Equal Employment Opportunity is applicable to US Citizens and residents with work authorization (Green Card holders, EAD holders, person with H-1B approved) and this is limited to job hiring, job promotion, discharge, pay, fringe benefits, job training, classification, referral, and other aspects of employment. This does not extend to immigration benefit or opportunity lost due to lack of immigration benefit (such as I-485 approval).
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gk_2000
03-27 12:51 AM
EB3 porting is a loophole like labor substitution.
when I came here 6 yrs ago, I had the option of applying in EB3 with a top 4 consulting US firm and I did not want to go that route. I waited until 2010 to apply in EB2.
Looks like People should come to the US as freshers or with 1-2 yrs experience > Apply in EB3 > Gain 5-6 yrs in experience > Port and BOOM, you have your GC.
How can people claim PD porting at a later date when they were not eligible on that specific date in the first place at that time? I know it's legal just like Labor Substitution.
Thats what i am saying. Agreed.
Reminded of Hannity show. Two idiots coming together and agreeing on stupid stuff. Again, you need to review your core concepts. It is NOT about "eligibility" in terms of a paper degree. Dont assume you know what was in the minds of the people that made the laws.
when I came here 6 yrs ago, I had the option of applying in EB3 with a top 4 consulting US firm and I did not want to go that route. I waited until 2010 to apply in EB2.
Looks like People should come to the US as freshers or with 1-2 yrs experience > Apply in EB3 > Gain 5-6 yrs in experience > Port and BOOM, you have your GC.
How can people claim PD porting at a later date when they were not eligible on that specific date in the first place at that time? I know it's legal just like Labor Substitution.
Thats what i am saying. Agreed.
Reminded of Hannity show. Two idiots coming together and agreeing on stupid stuff. Again, you need to review your core concepts. It is NOT about "eligibility" in terms of a paper degree. Dont assume you know what was in the minds of the people that made the laws.
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pappu
04-10 11:48 PM
Thank you qasleuth. I did not even read the whole thread but this thread needs to be closed and some action needs to be taken against anti-IV elements.
Folks, IV is a platform to come and work on the common goal. It is not a platform to come and abuse it by blaming it just because you do not have a green card till now. Come join us and help out. Be an active volunteer and work on daily basis with us to solve the problem and make IV better. We need more real workers on the ground than strategy advisers, critics and Management consultants.
Enough said. Actions will speak louder than words and you need to get involved to tell us your ideas. If you are interested to actively participate send us an email (info at immigrationvoice.org) with your valid email address with your name, phone number and what you would like to do to help IV. We will welcome your active participation and assign you leadership roles if you want.
The thread is closed.
Folks, IV is a platform to come and work on the common goal. It is not a platform to come and abuse it by blaming it just because you do not have a green card till now. Come join us and help out. Be an active volunteer and work on daily basis with us to solve the problem and make IV better. We need more real workers on the ground than strategy advisers, critics and Management consultants.
Enough said. Actions will speak louder than words and you need to get involved to tell us your ideas. If you are interested to actively participate send us an email (info at immigrationvoice.org) with your valid email address with your name, phone number and what you would like to do to help IV. We will welcome your active participation and assign you leadership roles if you want.
The thread is closed.
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ultimate_champ
09-21 11:07 AM
I am sure IV core, volunteers and other helpful folks have in the past and continually trying to contact various media agencies and channels to get the necessary coverage.
I think even after the rally, we should still continue to contact these agencies/tv channel websites (by sending them emails maybe.. calling them..) until they know the intensity & urgency of the issue.
Im sure one email will not suffice. The sheer number can make the difference and get their attention.
While the IV core thinks & works on about the future roadmap, I think all the members can try to contact these channels and then direct them to IV core for proper information...
Do you think this may make some difference and add any value to the movement.
Any other suggestions? Is this doable??
I think even after the rally, we should still continue to contact these agencies/tv channel websites (by sending them emails maybe.. calling them..) until they know the intensity & urgency of the issue.
Im sure one email will not suffice. The sheer number can make the difference and get their attention.
While the IV core thinks & works on about the future roadmap, I think all the members can try to contact these channels and then direct them to IV core for proper information...
Do you think this may make some difference and add any value to the movement.
Any other suggestions? Is this doable??
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gg_ny
09-20 02:35 PM
.... difficult in a mass rally where huddled masses are easily seen as being the downtrodden.
Hope this mail was not in response to my earlier posting. If so, I would delete my earlier posting as this one from
'husamymd' stinks. Is it always like this or just when your brain is used?
Hope this mail was not in response to my earlier posting. If so, I would delete my earlier posting as this one from
'husamymd' stinks. Is it always like this or just when your brain is used?
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nat23
06-20 09:33 AM
Ask yourself a question. If you were running a big business - whom would you prefer -- GC Employees or H1-B Employees.
What may be good for us may not be good for the other side.
Well depends on the job I want to get done. New Internatinal graduates come with less salary, more enthusiam, are hardworking and would go out of their way to get some work done.
In addition to that if I have a constant supply of H1Bs why would I want to spend more money on high salary & more perks if I can train newbies in 6 months.
What may be good for us may not be good for the other side.
Well depends on the job I want to get done. New Internatinal graduates come with less salary, more enthusiam, are hardworking and would go out of their way to get some work done.
In addition to that if I have a constant supply of H1Bs why would I want to spend more money on high salary & more perks if I can train newbies in 6 months.
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what_now
05-17 11:58 AM
sending to my local Senators and Congressman.
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Jaime
09-13 01:52 PM
Hello guys! Well said on this thread, you have all day today and tomorrow to make up your mind and attend. Make your choice a resounding YES! If you live in DC or nearby states you shouldn't even be thinking about it, the decision is: YES!!!! (just come! trust us, you will see this was the best choice, and you will thank yourself you attended!!!!)
YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT LEAST ONCE N YOUR LIFE! YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SAY "I WAS THERE"! WHY NOT ALSO MAKE HISTORY!!!! TOGETHER WE CAN!!!!! JUST COME!!!!!
YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AT LEAST ONCE N YOUR LIFE! YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SAY "I WAS THERE"! WHY NOT ALSO MAKE HISTORY!!!! TOGETHER WE CAN!!!!! JUST COME!!!!!
pitha
06-08 06:14 PM
CIR is going to be back for sure no doubt about it and when it comes back it is going to be the same bill. Harrry Reid is just creating a drama so that he can reduce the number of amendments introduced by the republicans. There are currently more than 30 to 40 amendments remaining, with this drama harry reid is trying to reduce the amendments to about 5 or 6 more amendments.
We should try something like applying for 485 without priority date but even the cantwell cornyn amendment does not have this provision
There is a SLIM chance that CIR might come back this year, but if this CIR is taken again with its current provision for the EB Category and H1B in it, it is very bad for many of us.
Plan B, I think must be, trying to insert or get some sort of SMALL provision that would alleviate the problem for vast majority of us, into some appropriation bill (Read some where there will be 11 appropriation bill taken up this summer) as the appropriation bill must have to pass for the government to function.
I would either try for filing AOS while visa numbers are not available with an extra fee of $1000… or recapture of unused visas from previous years and use them once without country limit might help. As long as we are not asking for some thing new or more, but like recapture, change of process to ease the current problem, etc might have a SMALL chance.
We should try something like applying for 485 without priority date but even the cantwell cornyn amendment does not have this provision
There is a SLIM chance that CIR might come back this year, but if this CIR is taken again with its current provision for the EB Category and H1B in it, it is very bad for many of us.
Plan B, I think must be, trying to insert or get some sort of SMALL provision that would alleviate the problem for vast majority of us, into some appropriation bill (Read some where there will be 11 appropriation bill taken up this summer) as the appropriation bill must have to pass for the government to function.
I would either try for filing AOS while visa numbers are not available with an extra fee of $1000… or recapture of unused visas from previous years and use them once without country limit might help. As long as we are not asking for some thing new or more, but like recapture, change of process to ease the current problem, etc might have a SMALL chance.
tonyHK12
03-28 08:03 PM
I recommend you apologize to MC and don't make this a circus
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And yes that was spouse not spouses (I am sorry about that spelling mistake) but you did post a message which was a . which was in relation to another members query about whether i am a man/women or something else. Now a . is called a Point which is also a degrotary reference to a person who is neither a man or a women. Now please do not deny it because there is no way you can fight that accusation off. I think if i dig deep down i wil come across other abuses made by you but i regress from the point
Most EB2's who are talking on this forum are idiotic, egostic and too much of themselves to think straight. Case in point Smugbee, SNathan and TonyHK. Since they don't have ead they want ead and thats all they care about. As long as they get to file 485 and get ead they dont care.
thats pretty ridiculous, why don't you prove it
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And yes that was spouse not spouses (I am sorry about that spelling mistake) but you did post a message which was a . which was in relation to another members query about whether i am a man/women or something else. Now a . is called a Point which is also a degrotary reference to a person who is neither a man or a women. Now please do not deny it because there is no way you can fight that accusation off. I think if i dig deep down i wil come across other abuses made by you but i regress from the point
Most EB2's who are talking on this forum are idiotic, egostic and too much of themselves to think straight. Case in point Smugbee, SNathan and TonyHK. Since they don't have ead they want ead and thats all they care about. As long as they get to file 485 and get ead they dont care.
thats pretty ridiculous, why don't you prove it
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